Date: 10/20/02 08:46:37 AM

Name: Mo4

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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Homosexual sex and masturbation

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So, do you suspect that with 61% of adult Americans overweight that there will soon be a papal commission on obesity, followed by an encyclical on this grave intrinsic evil? And let's not forget smoking. We don't see other animals cultivating tobacco and inhaling smoke. That's unnatural and inhibits the body's absorption of oxygen. So just how many people are commiting mortal sins everyday in the view of YOUR church?

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Actually eating and drinking when one is not hungry or thirsty is a sin. They both fall under the sin of glutony. One of the seven deadly sins.

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It seems like openness to life and unitive goals for a relationship are good values. There are lots of good values. What makes meeting this or that value discovered in natural law very serious or not so serious. Even if one shares these values, what reasons are given by the Church to make attaining some values more important than others? For example, it seems like the natural law would reveal that eating is for nourishment and drinking is to stay hydrated. Why isn't it evil to eat when one is not really hungry or in need of food? Why isn't it perverted and sinful to drink when one isn't thirsty? Why are murder and masturbation both grave matters? Why is birth control a mortal sin and not a venial sin? Seriously.

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Questions were asked below about these topics, and, presumably, why the Church condemns them.

In the case of homosexual sex, it's obvious that this cannot ever meet the criteria for openness to life, not in any act, nor in the relationship as a whole. Same goes for masturbation, which doesn't even satisfy any unitive aspect, but is entirely self-focused.

Note that the Catechism of the Catholic Church recognizes that masturbation needs to be considered in the context of one's development, and psychological state.

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